Blog EntryFind familiar faces (in photos!)Jun 28, '07 4:28 PM
for everyone
The brief but surely unbearable wait is over—we're quite pleased to announce that it's now possible to add, as we previewed a couple days ago, Faceboxes to identify people in your (and others') photos!

But that's only part of the story... here's what's new today on Multiply:


screenshot depicting a photo being faceboxedFaceboxes are here!
Have you ever come across a group photo on Multiply and recognized some people you know... but wondered who at least a few of the others are? Well, wonder no more.

The best way to get started with Faceboxes is just to try adding a new one. It's easy—simply find an appropriate photo containing either yourself or someone you know... and click their face! Up will pop the "Who is This?" tool pictured to the right.


screenshot displaying new facebox notificationsIf the user you're Faceboxing is already a contact of yours, start typing their name or choose it from the contact list below. If they're not, feel free to add their name or, if you'd like to invite them to Multiply, their e-mail address! (Don't worry; their e-mail address won't be shared with anyone else.)

Naturally, you're able to choose who can add Faceboxes to the photos you've posted (see Posting Options under settings), and can remove boxes if someone has incorrectly identified you. As you can see to the left, you'll be notified of new faceboxes just like you are for new posts and comments.

Note: now that clicking a photo serves to allow you to add a new Facebox, you can view the full-resolution original version by clicking the linked resolution text next to the image title, e.g. Happy People (1000x750).


Post via Email enhancement #1
(New: post to groups!)

You asked for our Post via E-mail feature for posting to groups... and now you've got it! Group administrators can enable this feature, and set a secret pin for posting their groups, by editing the group's profile. Members of the group can then view the group's profile to find the secret pin.

(Note that, for security purposes, group members can only post to a group using the e-mail address they currently have registered to their Multiply account. One can double-check or change that e-mail address on their My Account settings page.)


Post via E-mail enhancement #2
(New: security options!)
You can now set a default access level for future posts you make via e-mail on your Post via E-mail settings page. Additionally, if you've never used the feature before, you can also set a secret pin (which acts like a password, though you shouldn't use your Multiply account's password as the pin!) to get started with the feature.


Moderated group posting

If you're the administrator of a large public group, you may already be familiar with the hassle of keeping, say, clearly unwanted posts from becoming an annoyance for both you and your group's members. So now, we at Multiply will be doing more to make sure these are our problem—not yours. For new group members or recent Multiply accounts, this may mean a slight delay before your post appears in the group, but this should be minimal. So while we'll be catching obviously unwanted posts, group admins should still be on top of things, removing and reporting any unwanted activity.


We hope you cotton to these improvements—feel free to shoot back with your say below.

172 Comments
peiyeechang wrote on Jun 28, '07
love it,thanks=)
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bearrich wrote on Jun 28, '07
I think it stinks! You waste time uploading a hi-res photo and now you can't view it in hi-res!!
everdred wrote on Jun 28, '07
I think it stinks! You waste time uploading a hi-res photo and now you can't view it in hi-res!!
Go to an individual photo page. Look for the title below the image. Next to that, you'll see the resolution of the full-size version. Click that -- it's a link. There's the hi-res version.

Not gone, just moved.
dantcer wrote on Jun 28, '07, edited on Jun 28, '07
Any new group upgrades for Admins are most welcome! I think groups on Multiply impact greatly it's success, in the social networking arena!
wingcom wrote on Jun 28, '07
cool...thanks, will try them out~
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dantcer wrote on Jun 28, '07
Set your preferences on your message board to allow you to delete them. That option was added quite a while back.
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afterinfo wrote on Jun 28, '07
There's no issues or problems with this addon or upgrade --
If theres a issue REPORT It to Customer services..
You are just one member of multiply that says its anoyying -
BUT There thousands saying otherwise all over multiply..

nice name switch G.....
vanillasecrets wrote on Jun 28, '07
I'm not that fond of the frame around it. I rather just mouseover on the photo and their name pops out instead.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
Hrmmmm this is very dangerous and completely inappropriate... having someone else identify a user is a complete invasion of privacy. What a disgusting form of marketing!

With this "facebox feature" Multiply has now become one of the weakest "secure sites" on the world wide web... regardless of being able to "opt out"... which should have already been the default (e.g. opt out, and choose to opt in)

Multiply is now in contradiction of it's charter... Way to go!!!! 8P""" Perhaps someone should post personal identifiable information about all the webmaster/mods and owners of this company for the entire world to see. How about their home address... How about their credit card information... Exactly where they live... etc.

STUPID IDEA people!!!
free2laugh wrote on Jun 29, '07
What a waste..!!
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markushighway wrote on Jun 29, '07
WHY FIX SOMETHING WHEN ITS NOT BROKEN?!
morticiaaddams wrote on Jun 29, '07
im just wondering, is this really necessary?

im kinda disturbed by it tho.. just an opinion.. :)
inimtest wrote on Jun 29, '07
i'm not so happy with the facebox feature. it's a stalker's dream!
dvillarey2006 wrote on Jun 29, '07
oh i love this!!
bearrich wrote on Jun 29, '07
Go to an individual photo page. Look for the title below the image. Next to that, you'll see the resolution of the full-size version. Click that -- it's a link. There's the hi-res version.

Not gone, just moved.
Thank you, that works! It would have been nice to be told about this little fact instead of just adding the really useless new feature and changing it altogether.
karlcrockets wrote on Jun 29, '07
THANKS!
wormy wrote on Jun 29, '07
i'd much rather point my cursor on the person to find out who he/she is, instead of hovering the cursor over the tags below..
pkailasa wrote on Jun 29, '07
It would have been nice to be told about this little fact instead of just adding the really useless new feature and changing it altogether.
The link to hi-res image has always been there, as far as I know. It was never removed.

The facebox feature is an addition to what is already there. No existing features have been sacrificed to make room for it.
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butzpeteza wrote on Jun 29, '07
if you don't like it, you can disable it anytime. go to Posting Options, set it to "Only Me" so you alone can add your Facebox. if you don't like adding one, then do not add one. you still control your privacy.

multiply is the best! innovative features which you can control. i like it! thanks multiply! :)
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
if you don't like it, you can disable it anytime. go to Posting Options, set it to "Only Me" so you alone can add your Facebox. if you don't like adding one, then do not add one. you still control your privacy.

multiply is the best! innovative features which you can control. i like it! thanks multiply! :)
It should have been disabled by default. And it's not a matter of not liking it... Multiply doesn't seem to have any professional or personal privacy ethics. As one of person stated below, it's a stalkers dream... it's also a marketers dream. Why do the "hard work" when you can get someone else to "snitch" on someone else. One can either publicly announce they are identifying people or they can just keep it private to themselves by toggling that setting. But Multiply reaps all of the benefits by warehousing that information for further dissemination. Disgusting feature and a disgusting idea.
marc wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
Why do the "hard work" when you can get someone else to "snitch" on someone else. One can either publicly announce they are identifying people or they can just keep it private to themselves by toggling that setting.
Not sure I'm following you. What do you mean by "snitch"? If someone IDs you in a photo, you are notified. If it's not really you in that photo, or you don't want to be identified in that photo, you can remove it.
pkailasa wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
It should have been disabled by default. And it's not a matter of not liking it... Multiply doesn't seem to have any professional or personal privacy ethics. As one of person stated below, it's a stalkers dream... it's also a marketers dream. Why do the "hard work" when you can get someone else to "snitch" on someone else. One can either publicly announce they are identifying people or they can just keep it private to themselves by toggling that setting. But Multiply reaps all of the benefits by warehousing that information for further dissemination. Disgusting feature and a disgusting idea.
Aren't you overreacting?

Why don't you calm down a bit and explain why do you think Multiply is "reaping all the benefits"? And, how is it "marketers dream"?

You have complete control over what other people can do to your content. And, faceboxes are no exception. Just as you can block other people from commenting on your posts, you can restrict others from adding faceboxes to photos that you posted.

If you are worried about others identifying you in their photos that they posted (if you happen to be in their photos), they could do it with or without faceboxes (it's their content, after all). How is it different from adding a descriptive note to the photo, except it's easier and nicer-looking?
arvinlexter wrote on Jun 29, '07
cool idea! i think it would be really nice and more useful to be able to CAPTION that photo as well.... like speech mark or bubble.... makes it fun and interactive... not just names... coz we all know who are...... but it would be fun to add a messsage or a thought for that moment or something... just a suggestion =p
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slurpy69 wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
If you are worried about others identifying you in their photos that they posted (if you happen to be in their photos), they could do it with or without faceboxes (it's their content, after all). How is it different from adding a descriptive note to the photo, except it's easier and nicer-looking?
I agree with you pkailasa. You know eightd and id://07metamorfosi01, the feature is nothing different when people label a photo as such;

left to right: Jenny (blue top), John (in shorts), Mike (white cap) and so on. So how are you gonna stop that? Make Multiply disable totally the labelling of photos? I find it useful especially in group photos, it saves me the time labelling whos who.

Besides you can turn the function OFF so that only YOU can label your photos. I don't see what is the fuss about really. And btw, this function is very popular on Facebook and I'll have you know that they have 20 million users! And like Multiply, the users have COMPLETE control over it.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
Some of you don't understand the implications that this brings. Anyone in your network can identify anyone either with their name, email or multiply user id regardless if this setting is set to "only me" or not. This is pure stupidity. Anyone who knows anything about identity theft will recognize this.

I guess some of you don't mind if anyone breaks into your house and takes all your sensitive information to post it for the network/world to see. Since that's the case, just post your physical address and your name right here, right now... while you are at it... post your social security number.

I also didn't sign up for facebook for that exact reason... 20 million ignorant people doesn't make it right... look who voted for the president!
slurpy69 wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
Some of you don't understand the implications that this brings. Anyone in your network can identify anyone either with their name, email or multiply user id regardless if this setting is set to "only me" or not. This is pure stupidity. Anyone who knows anything about identity theft will recognize this.
Hey if you don't labelled them, no one would know! If you are so paranoid about people identifying whos who, then simply limit the photos for your contacts and to make sure you are really really really extra secure on the identity theft thing, make sure you personally know you contacts!

Like I said, if one of your contact was to label one of their pics that has your face in it, whats stopping them? Also again, your details or whatever you post in here is configurable on who can or cannot see them. Its that simple really.

And if you're still paranoid about your theft identity, I suggest you stay off networking sites or getting online for that matter, it can happen anytime when you log in to your email or purchase online. I think you should worry about that even more.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
simply limit the photos for your contacts
Again ignorance is bliss... I'm not here to police everyone else... if ONE PERSON makes the mistake of posting a photograph that's for "their network"... most of the time I immediately have direct access to it and they ARE NOT my friend, in which case I can immediately put whatever identifying mark I want on it.
pkailasa wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
Anyone in your network can identify anyone either with their name, email or multiply user id regardless if this setting is set to "only me" or not.
Actually, I don't need to be in your network to identify your name, email (if I happen to know them) or multiply user id even before this feature was introduced. What's stopping from me from posting a photo of somebody on my site and label the person in the photo as you by adding a note to the photo? In fact, if you are not in my network you wouldn't even know that I did this.

On the other hand, if I identified you in one of my photos using facebox, you'd be notified and more importantly, you can remove that facebox if you don't like it.
slurpy69 wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
Again ignorance is bliss... I'm not here to police everyone else...
Ahhh i see... and I thought you were so worried about the theft identity issue and unnecessary information being dished out by people in here... I guess if you can be ignorant about it, then it's not at all a big issue as you've stated a few post above.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
On the other hand, if I identified you in one of my photos using facebox, you'd be notified and more importantly, you can remove that facebox if you don't like it.
I know how it works... but consider this... how much damage can be done before someone actually checks in. Anyone who uses Personally Identifiable Information (PII) on a social network should have their heads examined. I'm still waiting for everyones Social Security number... I can database all of your photographs and start collecting my own information... your likes, your dislikes, who you know, where you go, etc... why stop there... lets just dig into your bank accounts... this is the ignorance that I'm texting about.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
I suggest you stay off networking sites or getting online for that matter, it can happen anytime when you log in to your email or purchase online.
Please refrain from suggesting to anyone to remove themselves from the internet. I already do my part for the security and safety of the internet, as well as multiply... it is not your judgment call to "suggest" what can and can't be done to another member. You are also disseminating false paranoia about online purchasing. I am pointing out a serious concern about the nature and validity of this new feature for those to evaluate for themselves... unlike you who are "suggesting" that users who don't agree with your opinion should leave the internet altogether. That kind of "suggestion" shows the intelligence of a two year old.
slurpy69 wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
I can database all of your photographs and start collecting my own information... your likes, your dislikes, who you know, where you go, etc... why stop there... lets just dig into your bank accounts...
i'm inviting you to do mine first, i wanna see how easy this all is...
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
i'm inviting you to do mine first, i wanna see how easy this all is...
I wouldn't want to waste time on penetrating multiply's limited defenses, let alone a specific member... I said I can... I didn't say I would. Your computer and internet experience seems limited imho, but I could be wrong... if I am then your motives seem a bit jaded on this request.

This is not personal towards you, I am simply responding to the topic of this posting that the "multiply" user has posted... this is my opinion... if you didn't think it had merit you wouldn't be challenging it and you wouldn't have just recently blocked me on your site for no apparent reason... I rest my case.
slurpy69 wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
I wouldn't want to waste time on penetrating multiply's limited defenses
Well I'm sure the Multiply admins (& a lot of people) would like to see if there is any loophole/weaknesses in the security/privacy policy. If you do know things as such, why not help out to make Multiply more secure? And I know its your right to be here and to your opinion but I think everyone must wonder now why bother with Multiply at all when you know of its limited defenses?

Oh and the blocking, just make it a lil more interesting, go figure :)

End.
cheapthrillsscan wrote on Jun 29, '07
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (^c~)
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
Well I'm sure the Multiply admins (& a lot of people) would like to see if there is any loophole/weaknesses in the security/privacy policy. If you do know things as such, why not help out to make Multiply more secure? And I know its your right to be here and to your opinion but I think everyone must wonder now why bother with Multiply at all when you know of its limited defenses?

Oh and the blocking, just make it a lil more interesting, go figure :)
LOL... Let's see you like Superman and KitKats from at first glance... interesting wedding pictures... just because you block someone doesn't mean squat. And when Multiply starts handing me a large sum check, as well as admitting they have some technical issues (which at least one customer service rep has denied of course) then perhaps I'll clue them in... for now I'll be content with informing them of their lack of security by allowing others to tag other peoples identity in a post.
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
The other thing that seems to be missing in this thread is, that no one can identify you with any photo unless you have the photo up to begin with and they can see it. So this works two fold, security wise. If it's of concern to you, don't post photos of yourself with permissions set to anyone you don't trust. (That's a given with what people can do with photoshop) Secondly, as suggested before set your permissions accordingly so no one can do it period if that is what you wish.

Permissions are usually always included with Multiply features that might affect anyone's sense of security or privacy. So when a feature is rolled out, set them accordingly. (Just like with the guestbook when it first rolled out) When you first join Multiply, that is the first thing you have to do - set your permissions. (Permissions for profile info, etc)

So permissions and security are an ongoing responsibility of all members, both here at Multiply, and anywhere else online. That's what I like about Multiply over other such online venues. We have options and permissions.
insel wrote on Jun 29, '07
very nice!
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
no one can identify you with any photo unless you have the photo up to begin with and they can see it.
This is the ideal situation... however if someone else knows who you are, and posts a picture of you that they have acquired on some other site or means, then than person can use the tagging feature to identify who you are... that's the inherent danger... multiply will know at bare minimum since they NEVER delete anything... they'll purge access and eventually store offline (or on some other medium) but it will still be public information... not everything in life should be public.
eminem wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
LOL... Let's see you like Superman and KitKats from at first glance... interesting wedding pictures...
Great job finding pictures he has set to 'everyone'. You're a real mastermind.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
eminem said
Great job finding pictures he has set to 'everyone'. You're a real mastermind.
Wow you are brilliant... and you might actually READ!...try reading the threads again and get back to me when you do.
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everdred wrote on Jun 29, '07
Thank you, that works! It would have been nice to be told about this little fact instead of just adding the really useless new feature and changing it altogether.
And thank you for pointing this out. Sorry it wasn't more clear to begin with -- the entry's been updated to be more up-front about how one now accesses their high-res images.
everdred wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
admitting they have some technical issues (which at least one customer service rep has denied of course) then perhaps I'll clue them in
I just had a look and couldn't find any customer service inquiries from you since early April.

Based on what you've been asserting on this thread thus far, it doesn't seem to me that there's any new security concern that didn't exist two days ago. This feature doesn't give anyone access to anything they couldn't already access before. Period.

If you have any concerns about security on Multiply, please don't think that we're not willing to listen. I more than invite you to let us know via the normal customer service channel.
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puma1504 wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
eightd nice that u say what u think...
when I said in another subject something, they kicked almost my bottom pfff
but I am not a fan neither of this thing
what is the purpose still dunno why was it necessary
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
I just had a look and couldn't find any customer service inquiries from you since early April.

Based on what you've been asserting on this thread thus far, it doesn't seem to me that there's any new security concern that didn't exist two days ago. This feature doesn't give anyone access to anything they couldn't already access before. Period.

If you have any concerns about security on Multiply, please don't think that we're not willing to listen. I more than invite you to let us know via the normal customer service channel.
Ask Curtis... thanks for implying heavily that I'm a liar... I do have the pms log and number but you don't seem to be the "normal service channel" either. May 30th, 2007 was my last communication with service and it's still present in the system.

It really is amazing how much I see others claiming to be admins/mods/owners of mp, and they always constantly deny and discredit anything that they can't explain and blame it on the member.

As for keeping this "hush hush" between myself and an individual that works for multiply, that's not going to happen. This is something that EVERYONE is entitled to know about and make their own decision. Silence is death and so is ignorance. I don't like the feature and a lot of other people don't like it as well. Had I not been informed by a friend of mine, I wouldn't have even known about it.

There are so many problems I can't even begin to start... My test account, which I deleted still receives email alerts EVEN THOUGH I UNTICKED EVERYTHING REGARDING EMAILS and of course the account is gone too... but hey mp doesn't have ANY PROBLEMS!! I do like the technology that MP has "borrowed" and employed from the W3C,open source and other social networks including tagging, but MP really needs to learn a thing or two about identity theft and invasion of privacy... which MP IS ENDORSING!
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
Regarding the original post here, and any concerns about the use of any pictures you have up, absolutely no one has to use this feature unless it's a feature they enjoy, nor allow anyone else to use this feature regarding them, if someone has concerns regarding their personal photos. It's really that simple. :)
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
absolutely no one has to use this feature unless it's a feature they enjoy
In an idealistic and Utopian world, this would be great... but in reality it's not.... THE FEATURE IS FORCED ON USERS AND IS ON BY DEFAULT!!!! Some members don't log on for weeks at a time, thus allowing others to do their worst in that time. I also know how marketing data is used. I know of people here that would be thrilled to hack into anyones account. I've been around in the social networking longer than MP has been public knowledge or even a concept.
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
If permissions are set accordingly for photos to begin with (during posting), then any default status of the facebook feature, would be a mute point. If the permissions were set to everyone, then it was already open season, on the photos and adding the facebook added no additional risk.

People who throw the "hack" word around do so to incite fear needlessly. In this case, it's like yelling FIRE in the middle of a swimming pool.

Fact is, if you put anything up online without setting permissions accordingly, either here at Multiply or ANYWHERE online, then you are at risk. It's that simple. Whether it's personal photos, or information.

If you read the terms, you will see that it specifically states Multiply's position regarding inviting and accepting contacts that you "do not know". And everyone should know, if they don't already, not to post personal photos or information to "everyone". If they do, either here or elsewhere online... they chose the consequences when they chose to do so, long before Facebooks were a gleam in anyone's eye.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
If permissions are set accordingly for photos to begin with (during posting), then any default status of the facebook feature, would be a mute point. If the permissions were set to everyone, then it was already open season, on the photos and adding the facebook added no additional risk.

People who throw the "hack" word around do so to incite fear needlessly. In this case, it's like yelling FIRE in the middle of a swimming pool.

Fact is, if you put anything up online without setting permissions accordingly, either here at Multiply or ANYWHERE online, then you are at risk. It's that simple. Whether it's personal photos, or information.

If you read the terms, you will see that it specifically states Multiply's position regarding inviting and accepting contacts that you "do not know". And everyone should know, if they don't already, not to post personal photos or information to "everyone". If they do, either here or elsewhere online... they chose the consequences when they chose to do so, long before Facebooks were a gleam in anyone's eye.
I'm familiar with most federal legislation and florida legislation (where mp's company infrastructure is registered) and just because someone tries to use an excuse of TOS or form data, doesn't mean they'll be successful in upholding their terms.

I don't "have the largest network" ... but at the same time I don't have "cells" as multiply wants things to be. One of the business goals of MP is to gather information about each user, including their ip, location, surfing habits, etc. If I knew everyone in the world, I wouldn't need this place to share ideas, content and such. I've already been hacked by someone who decided it was easier to hack my email account and then have multiply do the procedure for lost passwords. DUHH!

Defeatist attitudes like the one being presented here by you are not healthy... You just don't get it... your vision is too narrow to see the bigger picture. Multiply is NOT THE ONLY PLACE WHERE PPL POST whether it be text or a picture.

This new feature is a deliberate invasion of privacy on Multiply's part.... Given my extremely bad experience with Customer service and continued below/above in this post (others have shared similar experiences) I don't trust the operators of multiply to listen to their users/members at all.

P.S. Like I said below I'm not going to play police and tattle on everyone who has more than one account, mostly because I don't ALWAYS KNOW... but at the same time I'm not thrilled with the idea that multiply IS INVADING PRIVACY by allowing others to do their data collecting for them.
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
It is the USER'S responsibility to read and abide by the Terms. And of course, no one is required to utilize or be associated with Multiply or any social networking community that they are not comfortable with or have trust issues with. That's why Multiply is a CHOICE. If your computer was hacked, that is way far outside the scope of Multiply or any other sites responsibility. And to have your email hacked, that is a computer issue, not a Multiply issue.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
It is the user's responsibility to read and abide by the Terms. And of course, no one is required to utilize or be associated with Multiply or any social networking community that they are not comfortable with or have trust issues with. That's why Multiply is a CHOICE. If your computer was hacked, that is way far outside the scope of Multiply or any other sites responsibility. And to have your email hacked, that is a computer issue, not a Multiply issue.
It wasn't my choice to have google analytics monitor the tags in multiply, nor was it divulged. TOS are not law and can be challenged in courts of law. Do not discretely threaten me with that. Having the default of this "feature" to be set to everyone IS NOT A CHOICE!!!!!! GET A CLUE!
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
It is the USER'S responsibility to read and abide by the Terms. And of course, no one is required to utilize or be associated with Multiply or any social networking community that they are not comfortable with or have trust issues with. That's why Multiply is a CHOICE. If your computer was hacked, that is way far outside the scope of Multiply or any other sites responsibility. And to have your email hacked, that is a computer issue, not a Multiply issue.
Never said the email hacking was... perhaps you don't have enough intelligence to discern this in the conversation.

But that does bring up an interesting dilemma with multiply. MP is THE ONLY social network that allows email address to be viewed by contacts... no other network does this. Had multiply not divulged my email address, I wouldn't have been hacked... plain and simple... but I stiffened up the password randomization and thus so far *knocks on wood* haven't been successfully rehacked. It's a good thing it is specifically generated for multiply... so if I DECIDE (not you) to leave I can dump mp altogether... but hey what would I know about computers.
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
Divulging one's email address is also a choice, that you set in your permissions when you make your profile. For those who wish to change this permission either way, just go to View Profile, Edit Profile and tick accordingly in the "about you" section. :)
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
Divulging one's email address is also a choice, that you set in your permissions when you make your profile. For those who wish to change this permission either way, just go to View Profile, Edit Profile and tick accordingly in the "about you" section. :)
You are completely full of it now...
The only options STILL from day one of signing up are in http://multiply.com/setup/account

Who should be able to see your last name, e-mail address and birthday?
( ) Everyone ( ) Your Network (X) Your Contacts


Where you described it the following exists...

Who should be able to see your About You info?

(X) Everyone ( ) Your Network ( ) Your Contacts


There is no way of turning it off for everyone in either place... i prefer to show my about me because it's MY DESCRIPTION, but the email info is something that MP shares without any regard for security. MP has been weak in the security since I signed up the test account.
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
http://multiply.com/setup/profile

Set all permissions there. There are tabs for each section, so you can pick and choose ala carte. "About You" will change whether your email address shows or not and to whom. You can also view your profile as another user (at the bottom of the "view profile" page) to see what others can actually view as you make your choices, and can go back and change accordingly til you get the permissions set just the way you want them.

You may also choose to hide your profile entirely by clicking on Customize. There is that option in the welcome area of your homepage which you can tick or untick. :)
marc wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
There are so many problems I can't even begin to start... My test account, which I deleted still receives email alerts EVEN THOUGH I UNTICKED EVERYTHING REGARDING EMAILS and of course the account is gone too...
Was this reported to Multiply? If not, please do so and let them know the account ID and the address where you're receiving these e-mails.
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
http://multiply.com/setup/profile

Set all permissions there. There are tabs for each section, so you can pick and choose ala carte. "About You" will change whether your email address shows or not and to whom. You can also view your profile as another user (at the bottom of the "view profile" page) to see what others can actually view as you make your choices, and can go back and change accordingly til you get the permissions set just the way you want it.

You may also choose to hide your profile entirely.
Read below... there IS NOT THAT SETTING you are describing for complete removal of email address.
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
You may also choose to hide your profile entirely by clicking on Customize. There is that option in the welcome area of your homepage which you can tick or untick. :)
eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
marc said
Was this reported to Multiply? If not, please do so and let them know the account ID and the address where you're receiving these e-mails.
As I stated below/above... working with customer service is pointless. In addition to the normal customer service channels, in this journal item, someone who claims they looked up my last correspondence said it was in April... which is FALSE in whatever logs were viewed.

I've lost my patience with multiply and it's mods/operators/owners... i'll still be as civil as possible because it's common courtesy in my book.

Thanks for the suggestion though.
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eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07
The welcome area has nothing to do with my profile.
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dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07
Click on customize, then "edit" in your welcome area. You will see inside the editing section of your welcome area, a box to tick/untick to make your profile available.

And now, I have a root beer float calling my name :)

eightd wrote on Jun 29, '07, edited on Jun 29, '07
dantcer said
Click on customize, then "edit" in your welcome area. You will see inside the editing section of your welcome area, a box to tick/untick to make your profile available.
Again it has NOTHING to do with enabling or disabling my email in my profile.
dantcer wrote on Jun 29, '07
My post above gives specific instructions regarding how to do this.
slurpy69 wrote on Jun 29, '07
eightd said
You are also disseminating false paranoia about online purchasing.
Well there are proven statistics for this and its still happening. You accuse me of causing unnecessary paranoia about online purchasing but what about your accusations of Multiply's limited defenses when you DONT HAVE solid prove about it. So why don't you stop flaunting your online expertise and put where your money is and prove it! I've already invited you to try it out on me. Accessing my public post which was for everyone to see was real clever indeed as a way to profile me, I'm sure a lot of people has the same interest too. Any newbie can tell what I like and don't like. DUH!
eightd wrote on Jun 30, '07, edited on Jun 30, '07
Well there are proven statistics for this and its still happening. You accuse me of causing unnecessary paranoia about online purchasing but what about your accusations of Multiply's limited defenses when you DONT HAVE solid prove about it. So why don't you stop flaunting your online expertise and put where your money is and prove it! I've already invited you to try it out on me. Accessing my public post which was for everyone to see was real clever indeed as a way to profile me, I'm sure a lot of people has the same interest too. Any newbie can tell what I like and don't like. DUH!
I've already stated that you aren't worth my time. Multiply can easily be hacked but I'm not going to educate someone as inexperienced as yourself, and I don't need to PROVE anything to anyone, especially you... some will, some won't, so what... that's what I've learned about giving advice out... take it or leave it.

As far as context goes of your public material, you blocked me, but I still viewed all of your public content... it's not that difficult to do.
eightd wrote on Jun 30, '07, edited on Jun 30, '07
dantcer said
My post above gives specific instructions regarding how to do this.
And I've already told you your information is incorrect... The information about hiding a profile is not the same as limiting it's access to just me... you were on my homepage, and you didn't see my profile in the standard welcome area. This does not disable profiles.... thankx again, but try not to "help" any more because you are only confusing newer members with incorrect and misleading information.
everdred wrote on Jun 30, '07
eightd said
Ask Curtis... thanks for implying heavily that I'm a liar... I do have the pms log and number but you don't seem to be the "normal service channel" either. May 30th, 2007 was my last communication with service and it's still present in the system.
If you're contacting customer service, please, please, please use the contact us link at the bottom of the page rather than using the roundabout method of sending a PM to the customer service account. While, technically, either way works, the former makes it a lot easier than the latter to keep track of older issues.

My point in my previous comment was that it seemed as if you were saying that these "technical issues" that you mentioned to customer service were related to the new Facebox feature, which certainly wasn't available on May 30th, either. My apologies.
eightd wrote on Jun 30, '07, edited on Jun 30, '07
If you're contacting customer service, please, please, please use the contact us link at the bottom of the page rather than using the roundabout method of sending a PM to the customer service account. While, technically, either way works, the former makes it a lot easier than the latter to keep track of older issues.

My point in my previous comment was that it seemed as if you were saying that these "technical issues" that you mentioned to customer service were related to the new Facebox feature, which certainly wasn't available on May 30th, either. My apologies.
Your repsonse about contacting was actually similar to my last response to Curtis... apparently it's NOT the same because he gave me quite the run around and I got tired of hearing that it's "my fault" when I know for a fact that it isn't. That particular issue still hasn't been solved either... and I don't ever actually expect it to be. I do know there was a problem with extfs2 just in the last quarter including under UNIX and Linux... but whether or not the remote storage thru the proxy is actually that, I am not privy to that information.

My original point is that faceboxes are a violation of privacy... and I still stand on my convictions... I don't care to have my identity compromised AGAIN by a thief. They do exist and MP is making it much easier for them to assume identities... i've already been copied twice on my site here (once was by someone who has a crush on me and the other who knows).... and conversely multiply shouldn't need to be cross linking identities with images in a database... that's just my opinion.

My apologies if I wasn't ultra-clear... with any luck, after all these replies... I HOPE that I've made myself ultra-clear.
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mariabet77 wrote on Jun 30, '07
My apologies
mariabet77 wrote on Jun 30, '07
My apologies
mariabet77 wrote on Jun 30, '07
My apologies
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martinagabrielle wrote on Jun 30, '07
COOL!
rosiesbk wrote on Jun 30, '07
If anyone actully reads this
Get rid of all the chinese or Jananese links at the top of my page'
The fastest way to get a virus is to visit far eat sites
At least give me ads I can read
pilinette2 wrote on Jun 30, '07
Go to an individual photo page. Look for the title below the image. Next to that, you'll see the resolution of the full-size version. Click that -- it's a link. There's the hi-res version.

Not gone, just moved.
thanks !! I was just wondering how to do....:))
pilinette
rogeriototh wrote on Jun 30, '07
If anyone actully reads this
Get rid of all the chinese or Jananese links at the top of my page'
The fastest way to get a virus is to visit far eat sites
At least give me ads I can read
You should report this to Customer Service (http://multiply.com/info/inquiry)